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Remodel bath: sub put 6-mil poly on the exterior wall, greenboard over that in the tub surround, and is about to thinset tile directly to the greenboard.

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Remodel bath: sub put 6-mil poly on the exterior wall, greenboard over that in the tub surround, and is about to thinset tile directly to the greenboard. Anything you'd stop?

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Laguna S 2.1Score —

Yes, stop.

Code & moisture issues:

  • 6-mil poly on exterior wall is a vapor retarder, not a drainage plane. In a bathroom, you need a proper weather-resistive barrier (WRB) like housewrap or building paper, not poly.
  • Greenboard alone is not a code-compliant backer for tile in wet areas. Per IRC P2705.2 and TCNA RH115, tile in tub/shower areas requires a water-resistant tile backer board (e.g., cement board, fiber-cement board, or approved waterproofing membrane).
  • Thinsetting tile directly to greenboard will fail. Greenboard is not rated for tile attachment in wet zones.

Correct approach:

  1. Remove the poly and greenboard.
  2. Install a proper WRB (housewrap or building paper) over the exterior wall sheathing.
  3. Use cement board (e.g., Durock) or an approved waterproofing membrane system (e.g., Schluter-DITRA, Wedi) as the tile substrate.
  4. Tape and seal all joints per manufacturer specs.
  5. Apply thinset and tile per TCNA standards.

Safety note: If this is a structural or exterior wall assembly, consult a pro to ensure proper moisture management and code compliance.

Stop now—redo the wall assembly correctly before tiling.

398 tokens · 5.8s

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Nemotron 3 Ultra 550BScore —

Stop immediately. This assembly has three code violations and will rot.

  1. Wrong Board (IRC R702.4.2 / IBC 2509.2): Greenboard (MR board) is prohibited as a tile substrate in wet areas (tub/shower surrounds). It loses structural integrity when wet. You must use cement board, fiber-cement board, glass mat gypsum board (e.g., DensShield), or coated foam board per ASTM C1178/C1288/C1325.
  2. Vapor Barrier Trap (IRC R702.7 / Building Science): 6-mil poly behind the backer board creates a double vapor barrier (poly + tile/grout/thinset). Moisture drives inward (solar vapor drive) or outward (interior humidity) and condenses on the cold poly. It cannot dry. Remove the poly. The WRB belongs outside the sheathing (housewrap/Zip), not inside the stud bay.
  3. Missing Waterproofing (IRC R702.4.2 / TCNA B415): Tile and grout are not waterproof. You need a liquid-applied or sheet membrane (ANSI A118.10) over the correct backer board, integrated with the tub flange.

Fix:

  1. Demo greenboard & poly.
  2. Verify exterior WRB/flashing is intact.
  3. Install cement board (screws per mfr, 1/8" gap at tub flange).
  4. Tape seams with alkali-resistant mesh + thinset.
  5. Roll/brush liquid waterproofing (RedGard, Hydro Ban, etc.) 2 coats over entire surround, lapping onto tub flange.
  6. Tile.

If the sub argues "we've always done it this way," they are building to fail. This requires a re-do.

540 tokens · 7.0s

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